|@Lurid: I'm trying not to blame anybody, least of all the posters who take an active interest in the board and keeping it healthy, safe and productive. I don't think there is intentional bullying behaviour or dogpiling, I think it's easy to get that impression due to the "wave-like" nature of how these things arise. Totally didn't mean to imply that the process is unfair, just inherently, well, "wave-like" and that this, in turn, causes its own set of problems.|
members who are likely to indulge in behaviour likely to get them banned is that they generally seek attention. If somebody else is currently demanding all the board's attention, and in particular the attention of moderators - that is, users of Barbelith perceived as high-value and high-status - then why make your play for attention then? It's counter-intuitive.
Snark-free, honest: do you think that people are deliberately abstaining from bad behaviour to wait until the moderators are more free to respond to it?
Trying to process this... I'm having a hard time with the idea that people will go through the lengthy application process, presumably knowing this is a reasonably "high-impact" board, intellectually, then bide their time to make inflammatory comments at an appropriate moment as a "play for attention." There are easier beehives to poke, y'know?
I think people come here with a sincere desire to engage in conversation, don't realize they have severe misapprehensions about things, and can't handle having their worldview challenged. Which isn't admirable, but doesn't equate to timing your objectionable ideas so that they raise maximum ruckus.
You declined to name names above, Matt, but it might be useful to run through the lists of bannees and determine whether, verily, we are now hanging people on commas.
Well, it was banning discussions (which includes in my head, and I should have been clearer about, dropping the B-bomb in a "regular" policy thread that never develops into its own banning thread), not actual bannees. Once the Big Gun is pulled out, even if the shot is never fired, it's an indicator of a serious issue that's generating a lot of mental stress, particularly for the posters who take on the challenges of dealing with it. I don't think we're at the "commas" stage, either, but that was probably just a turn of phrase.
I'm really torn here... I think it would be beneficial to do this rundown of various banning discussions and what instigated them, but I'm VERY not keen to have yet another thread that gets into analysis of various posters, their behaviour, and re-opens old wounds and re-ignites old battles.
So... shelve this for a later time? I may PM a few people to continue the conversation if they think it'd be of benefit, but I don't think continuing this thread publicly will lead to anything good.
Off to work!