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What was the last comic or graphic novel you read that didn't come from Marvel or DC...

 
  

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sleazenation
15:09 / 16.02.05
Well a 500 page collection of most of the main palomar stores was recently published as Palomar... I'm not sure what it includes tho..
 
 
sleazenation
15:28 / 16.02.05
My post above was written before I'd seen Yawn's far better contribution obviously...

And yes I'd agree that Jamie's work actually is very ideosyncratic - the wrong word for what I was trying to express about the 'twentysomething' concerns that form a focus of many indie comics...
 
 
Spaniel
15:31 / 16.02.05
Wooo, gonna get me loadsa comics.

Poison River sounds great, Yawn. A bold comparison my friend - let's hope it holds up.

And any comic that's 500 pages long and a good read is for me, so....
 
 
Mike-O
15:34 / 16.02.05
Blue Monday from Chyna Clugstun Major & Oni. Very fun read, and the art is very cool.Check it out!
 
 
Mr Tricks
21:09 / 21.02.05
Just picked up the self published PABLO's INFERNO which is great... find it!
 
 
sleazenation
12:33 / 22.02.05
Come on Mr Tricks (and Mike-0) - tell us a bit about the comics too...
 
 
Andek Niemand
13:16 / 23.02.05
I'm currently re-reading Hugo Pratt's Corto Maltese-series. For those who don't know the character, Corto Maltese is a romantic, adventorous sea captain in the early 20th century. Also, I've started reading Jacques Tardi's Adele Blanc-Sec series, which is not unlike Corto, only the lead character is female.

Both comics include quite a bit of occult/supernatural content, so other 'lithers might find them interesting as well...
 
 
Alex's Grandma
19:01 / 23.02.05
This is going back a while now, I don't tend to stray off the beaten track often, but the last times were:

Ripple by Dave Cooper, which is about a depressed, blocked artist who meets a possibly underage, certainly overweight girl ( her 'overweightness' being part of the point of the narrative, before anyone says anything, this being all about 'flesh' ) with a view to doing some life drawings. From this point their relationship progresses into strange areas. It's a brilliant, if fairly disturbing piece of work, which recalls Dennis Cooper and particularly Georges Bataille as much as it does say, the bleaker end of Robert Crumbs material, which I admittedly can't stand and know very little about. So I'm not too sure what to think about Ripple - It's genius in a way, but having been through it a few times in the week I was given it, both appalled and fascinated, I think I could easily cope if whatever reason I never saw it again - I can't imagine anyone reading The Story Of The Eye three times in a row, say, though I can see that it's possible, but since Ripple's a graph novel, and in that sense even easier to imbibe than a movie, never mind a book, I suppose with hindsight I got a bit sucked in. If comics ever can be though, and I think they can, then I'd say this is definitely 'proper art,' there's even an introduction by David Cronnenberg, so there you go anyway, guarded recommendation.

The latest Jack Staff - Based on one issue, I wasn't at all sure what was going on here. Presumably, at least in part, it's sort of Cerebus The Aardvark to The Invaders' Conan, but beyond that I was stumped. Like, what did the Vampire Hunters have to do with anything ? I'd need to read more I suppose.

Apocalypse Nerd. The new series ( mini-series ? ) by Peter Bagge, about a computer programmer and a dope dealer who are forced go native in the woods outside Seattle after a nuclear air strike by North Korea on their home town. Just what you'd expect if familiar with Hate etc ( if not, Hate is well worth a go, being a bit like a 'grunge' version of The Simpsons 'meets' Dante's Inferno, though I've got a horrible feeling I'm regurgitating an old review in The Face or something by accident there, ) but pretty amusing all the same.

Hewligan's Haircut by Jamie Hewlett and Peter Milligan. Collected trade from 2*** AD a very long time ago, I'm guessing, but still on the shelves. A young man is released from a lunatic asylum with a new look hair-wise which by simply existing is a serious threat to consensual reality, but that takes him off on a series of wild and crazy adventures with teh fox of his dreams. Every teenage romantic's ideal, let's face it, and again, funny stuff.

With apologies if I've gone on a bit, but the man from Sleazenation, he request exposition.
 
 
Krug
06:59 / 24.02.05
Can't find Hewligan's Haircut, it should be great. Is it really in print?
 
 
sleazenation
07:46 / 24.02.05
Hewligan's Haircut is indeed in print once more, or at least, it was reprinted last year and should be relatively easy to find. Its been done in a nice French-style hardback album which really shows off the Hewlster's artwork wonderfully. I didn't pick up a copy myself cos I've got the whole thing in one of those best of 2000ads from the mid 90s, but I think this collection might be in full colour - as opposed to having a few pages of black and white art as many 2000AD strips of an early 90s vintage were afflicted with...
 
 
Haus of Mystery
08:21 / 24.02.05
I've got the original 'Hewligan' book with the whole in the cover. Signed by Milligan & Hewlett. Made a small boy very happy.
 
 
Alex's Grandma
12:04 / 24.02.05
I got my copy last week, so it shouldn't be too hard to track down.

The first few pages are in black and white, as are a couple at the end - Basically, whenever Hewligan's in the asylum the art's in monochrome, which is a bit arch maybe, but I think just about works as a narrative device.
 
 
sleazenation
12:48 / 24.02.05
Interesting... especially since, IIRC, the non-GN version had balck and white pages peppering the narrative at random intervals - does the usue of colour in the way alex describes abounts to a change in the narrative structure of the comic?
 
 
sleazenation
13:22 / 24.02.05
Corto Maltese is also interesting - I've only read The Ballad of the Salt Sea, but I certainly found it a very interesting comic particularly in its departures from some of the unwritten norms of US/UK comics - page layouts are far more standardized, the subject matter, the morality and adventures of an independent sailor in the early 20th century...
 
 
FinderWolf
20:07 / 24.02.05
Frank Miller LOVES Corto Maltese. He even put a reference/shout-out to it in his masterpiece THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS (the first one).
 
  

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