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Orlando, he of the white suit

Dave Philpott

23:40 / 04.12.02

John A'Dreams = Quimper = Jack Flint, but what about Orlando? I'm fairly new to Barbelith, so forgive me if this has been covered before, but Orlando never gets mentioned in these discussions about fiction-suits, yet it occurs to me that he's the only one we physically (symbolically?) see slipping into them.

Mr Tricks

23:50 / 04.12.02

In Volume 3 Flint refers to him/it as a automated-anti-life-Macro-program... or some such babble.

Orlando was never really a "person" that could fit into a fiction suit but an automated "fiction" like an NPC (non-player-charactor) designed by or for the outer church...

...IMO...

The Natural Way

07:32 / 05.12.02

He's a virus, inny? That's why the magic matter tears him to pieces (it being an anti-body and all that). He's actually composed of the anti-matter - just wears s suit of skin.

arcboi

10:43 / 05.12.02

Once I heard about this 'watch for the white suit' comment that GM allegedly made (referring to John A Dreams), I immediately thought of Orlando. I guess it's fun to play the bad guy in a game now and again so that makes sense.

I always thought he was the least convincing villain in the whole story simply because he's so obvious with his serial killer trappings. Mr Tricks' opinion that he's just a "fiction" is a pretty good one because he does come across as an off-the-shelf bad guy.

rizla mission

15:35 / 05.12.02

I reckon he gets some pretty effective nastiness going.. yep, he's a fiction, and yep, obvious serial killer trappings, but they just sort of enhance his role as a sort of ultimate, deliberately created bogeyman kind of figure.. if you see what I mean..

random thought:

D'you reckon any deliberate reference was intended to the book 'Orlando'?

Which I haven't read and know nothing about.

glassonion

11:39 / 06.12.02

orlando's about a character who has different genders in different times. orlando is fanny's boogie guy and has a blurry face, so yeah i think it is fairly relevant. that john and orlando are the same is cool when it's he who cuts jack's finger off and betrays the I-team to the sas. being a demon, orlando is more something people have than something that does.

The Natural Way

12:55 / 06.12.02

After a while though, Riz, all that "I will chop off yr FACE and wear it with a dog ensemble.." does become all chortle chortle, hyuck.

houdini

15:06 / 11.12.02

Yeah, as I said a thread over, he's a very... Vertigo... villain. And I don't mean that in a good way.

Does anyone actually know mad voodoo in the way that they could explicate what Orlando's meant to be in any particular sense?

gridley

18:37 / 11.12.02

Wasn't there some question as to how Orlando knew they'd be time-travelling at the windmill? If Orland was a fragment of John, it would definitely answer that question...

houdini

19:10 / 11.12.02

I think Orlando-as-John is pushing it, to be honest. Orlando's pretty authentically a demon. (As verified by the Gods in 'Sheman'.) But then, I guess, Quimper was a spirit too and there's a lot of theory that he was John, so....

I can never work this shit out.

19:19 / 11.12.02

I was never that crazy about Orlando. As a "bad guy" he wasn't very scary.

19:19 / 11.12.02

I was never that crazy about Orlando. As a "bad guy" he wasn't very scary.